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Post by Fakean on Feb 25, 2008 7:42:52 GMT 10
this fact alone is reason enough to ban him, if his configuration "makes him take less damage." then hes not welcome in pr1
I guess someone has to say it... but since when did [SF] own the entire PR1 mod?
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Post by Jim on Feb 25, 2008 8:00:47 GMT 10
the bottom line is even if we accept the accident hack detection theory the fact remains
an FL member states
"As for him not being able to be damaged: He shares a connection with 4 other computers, which would probably cause lag, which makes him take less damage."
"makes him take less damage."
add to this the sheer amount of players who post "hacker" in chat.
and those whove emailed me
at the end of the day these ppl are not having any fun with fakean in the server
he says
"play PR1 have no sense of honor dignity and are very lacking in playing skill."
if your PC setup is configured in such a way as to cause all the other players such consistant and obvious disadvantage as to loose any fun the game has when you are in the server, then honour dictates you get a better setup, or stay out of the game.
NOT post insulting threads about hacking
this is not about personalitys, its about results if at the end of the day the explaination is
as FL member states
"As for him not being able to be damaged: He shares a connection with 4 other computers, which would probably cause lag, which makes him take less damage."
then the onus is on you to fix it, not capitilise on it and then rub everyones nose in the erroneous results.
theres nothing honerable or dignified in that
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Post by Tasha Yar on Feb 25, 2008 8:09:24 GMT 10
We own SF servers and SF servers is what we are talking about.
It always amuses me that the people who say "we dont play on SF servers anyways" are the ones that squeal the loudest when they get banned.
You guys are full of excuses! The logs you see here are not the only times you have tripped clock. I mailed Roach (your Khan) about a previous illegal variant and the excuse Roach gave was “he is running the Mech pak hacks, alot of ppl do and there is a known problem with the CD keys,”This is another excuse. Changing your story now?
It is logical to expect to get excuses from people who cheat.
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Post by Jim on Feb 25, 2008 10:39:51 GMT 10
this from the WPPC forums
Also bringing up the point of damage on Fakean. This HAS been an issue in the past, Fak knows this. Back through October though Middle of December Fakean under different names (off the top of my head I think Fishhead, hande and Toasty) had very BAD ping problems up to 1300, At the time I did not know who it was, I only knew it was a player with BAD ping that would take NO damage in a small mech (hunchback or scat) Folks were getting angry each time and many times I kicked the player with the huge ping. After a few days of this the player told me he was Fakean and he was either downloading some HC files or someone else on his connection was downloading something. I told him that was fine and he should get that fixed. However he still continued to play with bad lag for a long while, I took up for him when I could but other admins kicked him for lag and taking no damage. My point is Fak knew that this was causing problems and urking folks because of his damage. I think if ANY PLAYER knows he is downloading something, or sees his/her ping is over 1k, he/she should take a break from MW to make things fair. Unless we all start a massive download and even up the damage ratios. I think this is something else we could work on as well.
thats my whole point fakean knows d**n well that running DL's while you play is a form of cheating.
he knows this but still does it, and then posts and boasts about the scores.... he knowingly uses this form of "cheat" then posts
"play PR1 have no sense of honor dignity and are very lacking in playing skill
telling the very people hes cheating, they have no honour dignity or skill
its not that they dont have skill, its that hes cheating
and as far as honour and dignity goes......................
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Post by Yar on Feb 25, 2008 10:55:39 GMT 10
Just adding to Kirks post. Seasoned cheats will use a "smurf" to "test" the hacks they use. If they are not detected and/or "called out" on it, then it gives them a "green" light to use said hacks with their reputable name increasing their reputation. On the issue of lag, there are many ways to use lag to cheat. Some have 2 connections just for that purpose then blame the server they are on and/or other players when they are fully aware it is their own connection causing the problem.  |
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Post by An FL Member on Feb 25, 2008 14:27:14 GMT 10
"As for him not being able to be damaged: He shares a connection with 4 other computers, which would probably cause lag, which makes him take less damage." "makes him take less damage." Please read my quote carefully. The key word there is "probably", I'm not sure if this is what causes his occasional lag spikes, but there have been lots of times where he has taken proper damage. |
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Post by Yar on Feb 25, 2008 14:47:56 GMT 10
Yep thats what you said. Did you bother to read the lines after that? Which was the point!
then the onus is on you to fix it, not capitilise on it and then rub everyones nose in the erroneous results.
theres nothing honerable or dignified in that
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Post by James Tiberius Kirk on Feb 25, 2008 15:03:02 GMT 10
The fact remains he tripped the sheilds on enterprise
2007-02-26 06:56:44 - 018215B0: {FL} Fakean: 67.101.3.213: Illegal Variant Detected!
his assertion that it was an NBT varient has been independantly tested by the WPPC today and guess what.........
he failed
thats right he couldnt trip the sheilds with NBT varients.
which means
2007-02-26 06:56:44 - 018215B0: {FL} Fakean: 67.101.3.213: Illegal Variant Detected!
he has been detected with a Hack.
add to that his smurfing and using lag cheats as reported in the WPPC forums, and we see no reason to lift our bans
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Post by Yar on Feb 25, 2008 16:00:05 GMT 10
Seems we are not the only ones to be smelling a rat!
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Post by Jim on Feb 25, 2008 16:03:05 GMT 10
Thanks tash good point
and again some one else's view on this not mine
"My point is Fak knew that this was causing problems and urking folks because of his damage. I think if ANY PLAYER knows he is downloading something, or sees his/her ping is over 1k, he/she should take a break from MW to make things fair. "
i agree fakean knows what hes doing, and i know what im seeing
its called cheating
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Post by An FL Member on Feb 26, 2008 2:31:01 GMT 10
Yep thats what you said. Did you bother to read the lines after that? Which was the point! then the onus is on you to fix it, not capitilise on it and then rub everyones nose in the erroneous results.
theres nothing honerable or dignified in that*Sigh* As one of you said, there are a lot of things that go into determining your ping. I doubt anyone here knows all of them, but all i was saying was that it MIGHT be one. And its not like theres anything he could really do about the shared computers, like you cant do anything about livin in Australia |
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Post by Jim on Feb 26, 2008 4:15:12 GMT 10
well as you can see we are not the only ones who think hes cheating, one way or the other.
there is no doubt in my mind that this players consitutes a negative factor in a fair game.
im convinced that the logs are correct and this is more than simple lag
ive played with people on dial up connections ive seen bad lag and its effects, this is beyond that
as recently as yesterday he was running windows media player while he played.
he knows this is wrong, but he still does it
he is in fact knowingly cheating, the FL Sakhan is a cheater.
blitz who also posted on that thread has previously posted that he uses hacks and that they are ok as long as its not a league match, ie if its not a MWL match its only for fun anyway and so hacks are ok.
so I KNOW beyond a shadow of a doubt that your sakhan and training officer are cheaters. and while i admire your loyalty, im saying in all honesty and sincerity that the FL clan no longer has the status of "honerable" esp after that post AND THE RESPONSES about hacking.
its nothing personal, its just the way it is
Im NOT the first one to have accused him of using hacks, im just the poor bunny stuck with the log proof, and i have a duty to the other honest players of PR1 to expose him .
i would rather this wasnt the case, but it is
with what ive seen, and the logs and the fact that most players are at least suspicious that hes been robbing them, im convinced beyond a shadow of a doubt on the balance of probibility and the preponderance of the evidence, that at the very least
it can be conclusively claimed
you will not get a fair game if this person is in the server with you
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Post by Tasha Yar on Feb 26, 2008 6:43:47 GMT 10
Milo, I am not going to post any more comments on the WPPC thread in relation to this issue. The WPPC have made their decision and it is not my intent to persuade them to change that. What I want to say to you is this.
SF has logs that show Fakean to be a cheat on several occasions. This software has been tried and tested for many years. You are making claims you can not prove nor can you reproduce the desired result. As such the onus is on you who is making the claim to prove said claims. You are unable to do so. These claims prove nothing.
In addition
No Milo they are not hacks, however Roach has said to me that the reason Fakean tripped cloak with “illegal variants” was because of “those cracks” as stated by Fakean.
I am not buying either “story” until such time as someone can “prove” to me logically how this happens.
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Post by savage on Feb 26, 2008 9:33:20 GMT 10
Why is it that nearly all the people defending him aren't willing to show who they are? Curious.
I recall a brief conversation me and Fakean had not too long ago during a team battle in Rubble Pile on DFA when he was using his Hunchback that went like this:
"Jesus Christ, dude, that Hunchie lags like a mother f**ker!"
"I know, that's why I use it."
You straight up got busted and you deserve everything you have coming to you because of it.
I hope it was worth it.
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Post by An FL Member on Feb 26, 2008 11:42:24 GMT 10
Why is it that nearly all the people defending him aren't willing to show who they are? Curious. I recall a brief conversation me and Fakean had not too long ago during a team battle in Rubble Pile on DFA when he was using his Hunchback that went like this: "Jesus Christ, dude, that Hunchie lags like a mother f**ker!" "I know, that's why I use it." You straight up got busted and you deserve everything you have coming to you because of it. I hope it was worth it. 1. It has already been said that I am {FL} Cobra 2. It should not matter who I am other then I am someone in FL I would also like to politely correct Jim on something: The "Illegal Variant!" error means there is an illegal variant in your folder when the you join. It does not mean that you are running hacks, or even using this variant. Please respect the difference in your future posts |
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